What annoys you about long haul flights?
We all have to suffer them, the long hours, the cramped conditions, the rubbish food, it is a necessary evil we have to put up with if we want to jet off and explore distant lands.
These are the things that get to me … http://bemusedbackpacker.com/2013/05/29/the-10-most-annoying-things-about-flying/
It’s all just a bit of fun, but I’m interested to hear people’s thoughts about the things that really bug them on long haul flights in particular (short haul is fine too).
You are right about the 112KG. Have you taken a flight to or from Melbourne, AU lately. The whole plane is overloaded with folks from India slogging their 4 bags (only 1 allowed) in the overhead. Makes me crazy, but then they have to go through customs most often and they search all their bags and pay, pay, pay! As for movement on a plane. I took an Air France flight from Bangkok to Paris last month. It was a large plane, but the aisles were so narrow and the standing space so cramped it was like the wedding dress sale at Macy’s. Along with that it was community day in the aisles and people were not moving when you wanted to get by! I just love flying and I do it again next month! Self punishment!!!!
How about the parents of the screaming kids who sit their and do absolutely nothing! And that includes the cryers and the just plain out of control ones! Just because they have become oblivious to the kid’s screeching does not mean the rest of us are! It isn’t the kids I blame, but the parents.
Having just returned from a trip to Malaysia and going on 4 long haul flights and 4 short haul flights during the trip – this topic is very fresh in my mind, but I’ll save you the excessive rants and be brief.
1. Fat people, spilling over into my space (also fat people getting to have the same luggage weight as me, it should be a total travelling weight, you plus your luggage).
2. Reclining seats ( I’m only 5’2 and a half, however I still find it impossible to be comfortable/eat/ when the person in front is fully reclined which I find pointless as it doesn’t make you any more comfortable).
3. Screaming children,
4. People standing about for ages messing about with their luggage at the end of a flight – seriously get your stuff and sit down, standing there is not going to get you off the plane any quicker.
I think that’s everything.
Ooh no 5. People who walk really slowly and get in your way from the plane to customs/baggage reclaim area.
Now that’s everything.
I try not to recline m seat but if the person in front of me does then I have to. I have more reason to complain about leg room as I have 2 artificial legs! Yes screaming kids are a problem too not as much as the reclining issue. I think it is rude for your seatmates to ignore you too. At least exchange some pleasantries. Sleep well next to impossible if person in front has reclined their seat.
Next one for me is to Europe and another peeve, the short connection. So you are worried about connecting on the next flight while on your first one.
Tim, haha, I don’t think anyone would now! Which is quite strange as everything I’ve ever read on this subject usually has a huge backlash of angry people vociferously espousing their god given right to only consider their comfort, everyone else be damned! I really am surprised.
Sarosa sho, I think there are pretty common themes cropping up now, which begs the question why aren’t these issues being addressed more?
You can bet the airlines know about it and choose to do nothing. It’s based on revenue and profit. For long distances we have no choice except to stay home. The game is to see how many seats can be crammed into the flying tube they call an airplane. I was on an Air France flight last moth that had asiles that were the narrowest I have ever seen. The toilets were tiny and all so that more seats could be added and increase the net Euro’s per flight. Airlines know they have us by walnuts and really could care less. Prices continue to go up and comfort goes down unless you pay for seats with extra leg room or payout unreal fares for Business Class.
On most Europen and American carriers if you ask for an exit row, they say sure if you pay us more money. It started in the U.S. and now Europe. Asian airlines do often respond to my request for an exit row when they see my very long legs. Korean, Thai, SIngapore are the best when asked at the airport for an exit row seat. If you get to the airport early and be polite they usually give you an exit row for no additional cost.
I guess we are to remain victims of corporate greed! On shorter distances, especially in Europe I take the high-speed train. On my trips last year I took the train everywhere in Europe and totally enjoyed the experience. Low stress, on time, comfortable and cheaper. In China and Japan I take the high speed train and again less stress, more comfort and I can actually sleep. This past December I took the train from New York City to Washington, DC and was surprised regarding the quality, price and schedule. As trains get faster, they are a great alternative to flying and takes less time when you consider the lines for security, slow walkers, recirculated air and surley airline staff.
So off to Europe next week on Thai Airlines, at least they will listen to my plea for exit row seating. Crying babies, terrible food, rude people, and folks under 5’2″ putting their seat back as soon as they get onboard will be the norm. I am prepared with head phones, healthy snacks, and my pointy elbows and knees.
Time you are absolutely right, they really do know all about it and couldn’t give a damn! It really does wind me up.
I agree with you on the train issue, apart from the primary flight to and from a destination obviously I prefer to travel overland the majority of the time wherever I am, apart from when I am home funnily enough! The UK rail network leaves a lot to be desired and are even more extortionate than the airlines!
Good luck on your next flight!
Thanks Michael! I’m sure I will have a few more stories to share about transportation. The best transport story was in Ecuador on a bus with locals and live chickens flying around the inside of the bus. It was a once in a life time experience to get to Mitel del Mundo (Middle of the earth)! I think I had eggs for lunch that day!!!!!
There is a difference between a tourist and a traveler, but sometimes the “me” generation can’t figure out which one they are.
If you bring on 4 bags as carry-on’s you should be denied boarding. It does say one 7kilo carry-on? If the airline allows you to bring all 4 bags on then you got away with it at the expense of other passengers who had to check their bag because you got your 4 bags onboard.
As for lost luggage, the more you check the greater the odds are you will lose something! Always pack essentials in your small carry-on and if your lugguge goes to Paris and you go to London it will usually show up! If not, you can always go shopping!
This thread is great – it’s like therapy!
I had to smile at Time of my life’s Freudian typo in his Air France comments: instead of ‘aisles’, ‘asiles’, this being the French for asylums!
Too right – planes often seem well-stocked with lunatics, hell-bent on maddening everyone around them…
Thanks Ed! You are right with my typo! I need to remember the next time I fly Air France, I will ask for the “asiles” as many of the characters on some flights seem to come from the asylums or maybe the underworld. I’m sure the flight crew will get a laugh out of my request????? heheheheheh
Here is an interesting article about airline etiquette! The article speaks volumes about the current status of air travel and how passengers deal with rude or unruley fellow passengers.
It seems that many suffer in silence becuase of the chance they will be seen as hostile, even when the space hog or ignorant are at fault!
I think I can put up with screaming kids, too little leg room and armrest hoggers but really, really cannot stand the 7-8th hour on a long flight (I’m thinking London – LAX), when flight boredom sets in. I wiggle in my seat, watch the first 15 minutes of about 4 different films, try to sleep, try to read my book, climb over the person next to me who has fallen asleep to go to the toilet, sit back down, look out of the window and generally mess around for a bit. The seventh hour is the worst!
It also creeps me out when people decided to start pacing up and down the plane in convoy. They’re probably trying to avoid DVT, but it’s just unnerving.
I must say though, I kind of like plane food. Especially those little cute carrots you get with your ‘chicken dinner’. ALSO on Virgin Atlantic, they give you Gu puddings and an ice-cream before you settle for a film and a nap. What more could you want? Except for an upgrade and copious amounts of champagne maybe?
Great post sally, never even thought of that 7 hour itch! I’m sure it’s familiar to all of us!
That shuffling convoy is just weird! Zombies on a plane!
Glad someone likes the airline food though! Not the most gastro friendly food in the world! I can stand it for short periods but I’m desperate for some decent grub when I land! Bring on the mango smoothies and street food! Oh, and I wouldn’t say no to an upgrade either! ;D
Sally thanks for reminding me of that last hour of long flights when I begin to get stir crazy! I’m not amused by games or movies during the last hours of a flight. I find myself looking at the flight data screen, which is a mind bending act in itself. I ask myself why is the plane going so slow? I think sometimes I’m just plain nuts!
Now if you want to try a flight where the itch just starts at 7 hours, try a direct flight from Bangkok to LAX????? OMG 14 hours is over the top and the itch does start early. I’m not one that really sleeps on a flight no matter how long it is. So by the time I get to the 10th hour of this long flight, I start to have visions of landing. Visions of a hamburger from Micky D’s! ICK!
I bring dried fruit and nuts on-board,as airline food has become revolting. The roll is hard, the salad wilted, the main is UFO meat of the day, dessert is dry and the wine (certain carriers) is one step away from vinegar. I think the food adds to my hallucunations of a good pizza and a beer!
Thanks Sally for the itch reminder!!!!!
This is an interesting debate… So, how many of you lot would pay to upgrade to a child-free zone like this one?
Pay to upgrade? I think those zones should be part of the bog standard ticket price Lottie! Parents should be made to pay extra to sit in the childrens zone!!