Are London and York both crap towns in the UK?

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This book of Crap Towns, as voted by the public, London and York have come out as terrible places to live, alongside Stoke-on-Trent and Southampton…

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/picturegalleries/10360428/Crap-Towns-Returns-top-ten-worst-places-in-Britain.html?frame=2694573

It’s a pretty controversial list – what do you think? Are you jumping to your home-town’s defence or are you agreeing with the moaning residents of Gibraltar and Coventry?

Let us know what you think!

Lottie Gross 22/01/14    General travel chatEngland Link Report

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London is crap if you don’t have much money. York is just crap full stop. I should know, I grew up there.

treb0r 22/01/14    Link Report

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I think it makes a big difference if you think of London as a whole bunch of towns, rather than one. I live in the southeast, and I think it’s pretty damn great down there – a day in Forest Hill is always a day well-spent! But then, I would not want to be stranded in Elephant and Castle of an evening… I don’t know if the lovely places tip the balance overall, but I don’t reckon it’s especially useful to treat London as one enormous whole. I mean, it does have about 8 million people in it, and over 30 boroughs…

I can’t speak for York, having never been there, but I’ll be sure to take a trip up and find out!

Rebecca Hallett 24/01/14    Link Report

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Got to agree with you there, there are so many parts of London which are incredible. Richmond Park being my favourite park anywhere I’ve ever been, for example. Upper Norwood has a special place in my heart with its second-hand shops and markets. And the dinosaurs and maze in the park. Then there’s the free galleries and museums in Central London too! But for every Courtauld or Thames Path there is a Thornton Heath or a Lewisham with all their shortcomings and lingering threat… That said, for the past few years I’ve been walking the city’s paths (@WalkLDN) and having a great time. Never once been mugged or threatened.

As for York, only been there for a long weekend but found it to be perfectly amenable in the day. Night time wasn’t quite so alluring because of the number of bouncers and police around the bars, that’s gotta signpost a trend towards violence, right? But again great museums and places to see. I all depends what you ask of a place.

But perhaps all my opinions are worthless because I recently CHOSE to move to Croydon? Don’t see what the fuss about that is personally, but lots of people seemed to think I was mad.

Expatior 28/01/14    Link Report

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Here’s a clear list of the Top Ten:

http://www.craptownsreturns.co.uk/2013/10/06/the-top-ten/

London is over-priced, and full of bankers.

SamJ 22/01/14    Link Report

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(Although for obvious reasons, I’m biased.)

SamJ 22/01/14    Link Report

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I gew up in Wales and dreamt of moving to London. Now I’ve been here twenty years. I think if you’re willing and able it’s an easier place to find a job than other cities, but harder to establish yourself (find a flat/buy a house etc) as is just so expensive. Even getting from A to B uses up a hige chunk of cash every day if you don’t cycle.

Paula, Soothed in The City 24/01/14    Link Report

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I agree – it’s hard to get into London but when you do it’s really rewarding. I’ve been here 6 months now and am loving it, even if the District Line burns a hole in my pocket to get to work!

Lottie Gross 24/01/14    Link Report

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